<p>Father Gabriel loves them. Jacob is weirded out by them. The boys talk the gruesome and glorious reality of relics.</p>

Created Things - Merry Kitschmas

Created Things is a casual conversation on all things both creative and created, hosted by two guys who are both creative and created themselves: artist and psychotherapist Jacob Flores-Popcak (MA LPC - “Pretentious White Male”) and Father Gabriel Torretta (OP - “Real Catholic Priest”). Whether you’re an artist yourself or you’ve never held a crayon in your life, whether you’re super religious or you’ve never met a God you got along with, this podcast will have you busting out the paints and singing hallelujah.