Why she doesn't have a cell phone1:30 - Her latest vision for Midtown4:30 - Challenges for the neighborhood and how to keep people in homes9:45 - Why the pandemic didn't Midtown as bad as other areas11:30 - Her desire to preserve buildings as part of redevelopment16:05 - Balancing preservation with new construction18:10 - How Cass Corridor became Midtown21:55 - Her succession plan22:30 - What's still on her bucket list24:35 - Her biggest failure in business and how she overcame it.