CSI Vice President Pia von Strasser interviews fellow 2nd-year student Renisha Lyon about integrating spirituality and religion into counseling.Some of the topics covered in this conversation include:-Pursuing a dual master’s degree in Divinity and Clinical Mental Health Counseling-Distinguishing between religion and spirituality-Renisha’s own religious and spiritual development-Respectful approaches to exploring clients’ negative experiences with religion-The clinical utility of patience, authenticity, and curiosity-Strengths-based perspectives on client spirituality-Embracing the messy and abstract nature of spirituality-Promoting holistic wellnessFor more information about the M.A. Counseling Program at Wake Forest University, visit: counseling.graduate.wfu.edu/Music Credit: “Voyage” by Ikson