Episode #12 -- Coping with the social distancing and other effects of the coronavirus, a Counselor Educator’s Perspective. In this episode, I interview Dr. Elliott Ingersoll, Professor and Chairperson of Counseling, Adult Learning and Educational Leadership at Cleveland State University. Dr. Ingersoll is also the producer and host of the podcast, Apply Topically. In this episode, we discuss a variety of issues, including how to think about the benefits and harms of social distancing to flatten the curve v. potential long term psychological effects of social isolation and economic hardship, continued social distancing for vulnerable groups and how it  could impact their feelings of despair and social isolation, the disproportionate effects of the virus on minority groups, especially African Americans, in terms of mental health issues, and advice to help individuals (and college students) as they continue to cope with the daily effects of the stay at home orders and social distancing.