<p>We have listener feedback and non-listener feedback, Brendan's off spicy food for now, and they both have one mother of a conversation about mothers.</p><p>Alternative episode titles:</p><ul><li>I wish everybody would just stay where they were</li><li>I think I love what you said but I don’t understand it</li><li>I’m sorry, please forgive me, thank you, I love you</li><li>Ho'oponopono</li></ul>

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What is the work of a middle-aged man? To improve himself and help those around him contribute to a fairer, more tolerant society.

Mark is a digital producer with a coaching mindset. Brendan is a home remodeler with plans to become a men’s health coach.

As men entering their second phase of life, they push each-other to be better and achieve more, without the hustle and grind mindset of the Internet bro.

They also do battle with music, writing original songs on the topic of the day.