<p>Mark is almost at a podcast conference. Brendan is juggling men's retreat options. And together they plot to save the world.</p>

 Have you ever heard of the ManKind Project? 

 We already have forgotten how to live without the internet. 

 When you say "this toxicity", to what are you referring?

 I can tell who doesn't listen to my podcast. 

Things are not done or not done

What is the work of a middle-aged man? To improve himself and help those around him contribute to a fairer, more tolerant society.

Mark is a digital producer with a coaching mindset. Brendan is a home remodeler with plans to become a men’s health coach.

As men entering their second phase of life, they push each-other to be better and achieve more, without the hustle and grind mindset of the Internet bro.

They also do battle with music, writing original songs on the topic of the day.