Contagious Culture
Contagious Culture
Kyle S. King
#191 | Innovation Needs Laughter with Kathy Klotz-Guest
33 minutes Posted Jun 20, 2026 at 9:00 am.
— Introduction00:18 — Meet Kathy Klotz-Guest01:22 — Who Kathy is beyond the titles02:48 — Reclaiming humanity inside corporate spaces03:00 — How Kathy’s work began05:45 — Moving from fragmentation to integration06:20 — Courage, comedy, and stepping outside your comfort zone08:40 — What innovation theater means10:44 — Fear, support, and the role of humor12:45 — Laughter as a measure of trust13:30 — How leaders can model psychological safety15:00 — Ritualizing mistakes and learning from failure16:20 — Building the ensemble through “yes, and”18:00 — Why old leadership models no longer work20:00 — Becoming one percent bolder every day21:45 — The meaning of “yes, and you”
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In this episode of the Contagious Culture Podcast, Kyle King sits down with Kathy Klotz-Guest, keynote speaker, author, comedian, LinkedIn Learning instructor, and creator of BoldNet.
Kathy shares how humor, improv, and authenticity can help leaders build trust, reduce fear, and create cultures where people feel safe enough to take risks. She explains why many organizations get stuck in “innovation theater,” where teams talk about innovation but never create the conditions for real creativity, experimentation, or change.
Kyle and Kathy also discuss psychological safety, leadership vulnerability, positive humor, the power of “yes, and,” and why leaders must model the courage they want to see in their teams.
Key Topics:
Why humor builds trust and psychological safety
What “innovation theater” looks like inside organizations
How fear blocks creativity and risk-taking
Why leaders must model vulnerability and experimentation
The role of laughter in healthy team culture
How improv principles like “yes, and” strengthen collaboration
Why teams need support systems to be bold
How leaders can become one percent bolder every day
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