Contagious Culture
Contagious Culture
Kyle S. King
#179 | Building Learning That Makes People Feel Seen W/ Dr. Michelle Chanda Singh
51 minutes Posted Apr 9, 2026 at 12:00 pm.
— Introduction00:15 — Meet Dr. Michelle Chanda Singh00:30 — Rooted and Ready01:00 — Creating space for accomplished women to pause01:45 — Who were you before you were busy?02:15 — Carrying the weight of being first-generation03:00 — Remembering the person beneath the productivity03:30 — Childhood in Jamaica, freedom, and creativity04:30 — Presence, playfulness, and listening to yourself05:30 — Kyle’s experience choosing rest over work06:15 — Why slowing down makes us feel lighter07:00 — The act of being busy07:30 — Why leaders ignore their bodies08:15 — Burnout, unused leave, and working on autopilot09:00 — Disconnection, disengagement, and emotional numbness09:30 — The unhealthy attachment to work10:00 — Were the unused days worth the payout?11:00 — Why rest would have improved Michelle’s leadership11:30 — Recognizing burnout after leaving the system12:00 — Empty nesting, entrepreneurship, and rediscovering identity12:30 — The retreat that changed Michelle’s perspective13:00 — Designing days around rest, learning, and community14:00 — Why community, therapy, and coaching matter15:00 — Accomplishments without identity15:30 — Who are you without your title?16:00 — Learning to introduce yourself as a human being17:00 — Patterns of producing, performing, and perfecting17:30 — Detaching your worth from the outcome18:30 — Creating spaces for safe and honest conversation19:15 — The childhood weight Michelle carried20:00 — Being the first in the family20:30 — Pregnancy, shame, and the pressure to prove everyone wrong22:00 — Turning shame into testimony23:00 — Senior year of college and fear of disappointing her family24:00 — Hiding pain behind strength and achievement25:00 — Collecting degrees to prove she was not a failure26:00 — Moving from performance to healing26:30 — How therapy changed Michelle’s perspective27:30 — Therapy as part of a healthy routine28:00 — Redefining strength and asking for help29:00 — Why inner work improves professional performance30:00 — Choosing rest without guilt30:30 — Me Time Mondays31:00 — Freedom Fridays32:30 — Filling your own cup before serving others33:15 — Michelle’s current work33:30 — Disengagement as a system signal34:00 — Clarity, courage, and care35:00 — Introducing the EQUAL Methodology36:30 — E: Evaluate context37:00 — Looking beneath disengaged beh
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In this episode of the Contagious Culture Podcast, Kyle King sits down with Dr. Michelle Chanda Singh, educator, professor, researcher, consultant, and creator of the EQUAL Methodology.
Michelle shares her journey from high-performing educator and lifelong achiever to a leader learning how to separate her identity from productivity, accomplishment, and constant busyness. She opens up about burnout, motherhood, immigration, perfectionism, therapy, and the pressure to prove herself through degrees, credentials, and professional success.
Kyle and Michelle also discuss disengagement as a form of self-protection, the importance of emotional safety and belonging, and how leaders can create healthier learning and workplace environments through clarity, courage, care, collaboration, and evidence.
Key Topics:
Who we were before we became busy
Why high-functioning leaders often ignore their own needs
The connection between productivity, perfectionism, and identity
Michelle’s experience as a first-generation immigrant and educator
How motherhood shaped her drive to prove herself
The danger of attaching worth to accomplishments
Why rest helps leaders show up better
Therapy, coaching, community, and healing
Redefining productivity through connection, presence, and wholeness
Why disengagement is often self-protection
How emotional safety and belonging affect performance
The three leadership principles of clarity, courage, and care
The five dimensions of the EQUAL Methodology
Why leaders must look beneath behavior
Creating collaborative communities of care
Using reflection, feedback, and data to sustain progress
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