Recent incidents involving aggressive ICE tactics have outraged critics of President Donald Trump’s deportation agenda. We hear from a former ICE official about whether its reputation as a lawless agency is warranted – and what it could mean for future recruiting efforts. 
Guest: John Sandweg, former acting ICE director
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Host: David Rind 
Producer: Paola Ortiz 
Senior Producer: Faiz Jamil 
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Might at the Museum: Trump Targets the Smithsonian

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You’ve been overwhelmed with headlines all week – what's worth a closer look? One Thing takes you beyond the headlines and helps make sense of what everyone is talking about. Host David Rind talks to experts, reporters on the front lines and the real people impacted by the news about what they've learned – and why it matters.