Matt and Shelby discuss how creatives can become better business developers with Kelly Sells.

How Can Creatives Live Their Best Lives (w/ Jay Clouse)

Ever wish life had an undo button? 

The CMD-Z Show, hosted by Matt Vojacek and Shelby Hagerdon, seeks to provide answers to the big questions that hound creative minds at night. With a new guest each week, hear unique perspectives from creatives on running a business, maintaining your mental health, finding your voice, and more. Presented by Made By Things — this is the CMD-Z Show.

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Learn more about Matt and Shelby at madebythings.com