Binder is en plein air this month as Ray catches up with Jackie Adams about the CMA's latest exhibitions and their relationship with the natural world, and artist Amanda McCavour stops by to talk about her  latest series of installation work, Bright Little Day Stars. After the break, Ray chats with writer and naturalist John Lane about rivers, roadkill, and the real outdoors.

Binder is a production of the Columbia Museum of Art. Produced and edited by Drew Baron.