In this episode, Roger and Pam discuss Florida politics: why it is a red state at the moment, her idea for the Democrats to start a campaign to get people to move there for political reasons, the parts of her gun control and health care platform that appealed to Republicans and more. Note: Though it was eventually corrected, this episode was initially labelled as Episode 3 for iTunes subscribers.  You may want to go back to <a href= "https://cfthepodcast.com/episode-3-paul-chabot-president-and-ceo-of-conservative-move/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Episode 3</a> to hear the one you missed.

Episode 5 - Jason Marsden, Executive Director of the Matthew Shepard Foundation

Liberals are too clustered in major cities, mainly in blue states.  This is why Hillary Clinton can get 3 million more votes and still lose the election.  Progressives and liberals are not spread out enough across the country in large enough numbers to win more elections.

What can liberals and progressives do to turn more of the map blue? The short answer is…MOVE!

In this podcast, we talk to people in places that aren't blue. Sometimes it's liberals who are on the ground in deep red territory. Other times, it's people who don't agree with liberals. But always with the goal of answering these questions:

What will bring more liberal voters to red states?
How can liberals persuade voters who are already there?
The Clusterf*cked Podcast is an exploration of a new liberal movement…that must be literal!