What if helping address climate change were akin to trying to start a fire without matches? In this beautiful conversation, Bonita draws a parallel between her attempts to start fire with a bow drill and the way she hopes we can all keep showing up in the world, and not give up.

Climate Magic: Eco-grief on the Frontline, with Ashlee Cunsolo

Hosted by author and professor of Environmental Studies at Cal Poly Humboldt, Sarah Jaquette Ray, Climate Magic connects emotions like climate anxiety and despair to our ability to take positive action and reclaim our sense of efficacy. Through interviews with a range of experts, she reveals that magic in this current climate comes from even the smallest acts.