In this week's episode Dr Crane talks to Brent Maher, former CISO Johnson Financial Group, about the human element of phishing and communicating value to stakeholders. This episode was recorded when Brent was CISO of Johnson Financial Group. He is now the Chief Technology Officer.In this episode:Brent Maher:LinkedIn — https://www.linkedin.com/in/ciso-brentmaherThanks To Our Sponsors:Heinz College CISO Certificate — https://www.heinz.cmu.edu/programs/executive-education/chief-information-security-officer-certificateCISOWise vCISO — https://www.cisowise.com/Heinz College:https://www.facebook.com/heinzcollegehttps://www.linkedin.com/school/carnegie-mellon-university---h.-john-heinz-iii-college/Carnegie Mellon:https://www.linkedin.com/school/carnegie-mellon-universityhttps://www.facebook.com/carnegiemellonuFollow CISOWise on all podcast apps.Website — https://www.cisowise.com/podcastShow Notes & Transcript — https://www.cisowise.com/podcast/005-developing-a-phishing-awareness-program-with-brent-maher