In this episode, therapist and cultural anthropologist Zara Zimbardo is joined by narrative strategist and climate activist Patrick Reinsborough for a conversation exploring how we think about “the end” and what apocalyptic narratives can tell us about new beginnings and collective actions.

This episode was recorded during a live online event on May 13, 2020. Stay tuned for a continuation of this conversation with Zara and Patrick right here in a couple of weeks!

Revisiting Ijeoma Oluo: So You Want To Talk About Race

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