It's Perry Month for CAMRA and Cider Review, and since Adam wants to shamelessly plug his book, we're diving into the magical, secretive world of perry, with Kertelreiter Cider & Perry's Barry Masterson and Burum Collective's Helen Anne Smith. Listen along as we talk about ultra-rare pears and Brian Napoleon, whilst Justin turns up with a cider because he 'left his perry at a friend's house'. lbert makes cider and perry at Ross-on-Wye Cider & Perry Company Adam writes about it mainly on cider-review.com (and has a book coming out! Which you can pre-order on kickstarter!) Justin, a professional actor-director, enthuses about it, drinks it, occasionally makes it and keeps our podcast vaguely professional.