Gordie chats with co-host Zaid Umar his referee journey and balancing life, school and officiating. &nbsp;
PRO Assistant Referee Jeff Swartzel returns to the podcast to talk about the importance of self-reflection. &nbsp;
Dr. Joe Machnik joins the podcast with a wealth of knowledge and experience about the role of soccer officials over the decades. &nbsp;
 
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Check Complete Podcast Episode 016 - An Interview with Kali Smith

Check Complete, a referee podcast, is an educational resource for referees, by referees, designed to connect and develop soccer officials of all ages and skill levels to better serve the game both on and off the field.