Welcome to Chatter with BNC, Business North Carolina's weekly podcast, serving up interviews with some of the Tar Heel State's most interesting people.

In today's episode, Ben Kinney speaks with Brian Vigna, cybersecurity specialist at NC State University's Industry Expansion Services, about why small businesses can't afford to ignore cybersecurity. Brian shares his winding path from sports broadcasting to cyber, explains the "defense in depth" mindset, and breaks down the real cost of a breach, from lost production to forensics. Then the two swap notes on live music, trading favorite jam bands (Goose, Dogs in a Pile, Eggie), the magic of Nugs, and top North Carolina venues. Plus, how to tap IES's free resources for small manufacturers.