Host Rob Couch interviews Dr. Bill Allen, Senior Pastor of First United Methodist Church of Canandaigua, NY. Bill has vast experience in both very large and small congregations in areas of Upstate New York. He is also half of a clergy couple. His wife Rev. Kristen Allen and he have served as co-pastors, but currently serve churches in two different nearby communities. Bill shares how to navigate challenges of both small and large congregations when it comes to staffing and how to overcome limitations if serving in a more rural setting. FUMC Canandaigua <a href='https://www.fumcc.org/'>https://www.fumcc.org/</a> Bumper music was written, performed, and recorded by David Couch. Christ United Methodist Church <a href='http://www.christunited.com'>http://www.christunited.com</a> Changing Churches Podcast Site <a href='http://changingchurches.net'>http://changingchurches.net</a>

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