Changing Academic Life
Changing Academic Life
Geraldine Fitzpatrick
Jayne Price on making work work better (CAL137, S8E2)
1 hour 13 minutes Posted Jan 28, 2026 at 6:00 am.
Introduction to the Episode03:41 Introducing Jayne and her Career Journey06:52 Understanding Project versus Program Management07:59 From Change to Transformation12:14 Implementing Experiments and Measuring Change14:10 Challenges in the Academic and Research Sector19:54 Innovative Approaches to Leadership and Management27:21 Designing Alternative Promotion Routes29:21 Challenges to Identity and Developing Leaders35:50 Moving from 'I' to 'We' as a Leader37:53 The Mindset to Move to 'We'40:13 Humility, Vulnerability and Authenticity in Leadership43:26 Shadow Sides, Blind Spots and Experimenting with Different Approaches47:31 Starting to See the Benefits50:53 Creating Workplaces For People to Flourish53:04 The Holacracy Experiment Creating Clarity55:42 Doing Meetings Differently59:22 Empowerment and Autonomy with Accountability01:01:47 Corporate Rebels and Other Inspirational Resources01:06:31 The Critical Importance of Leadership Buy-In01:08:01 Everyone Can Choose Leadership Behaviours at Any Level01:09:51 Encouragement for Change Agents01:11:39 OutroAbout Jayne:Jayne Price https://www.linkedin.com/in/jayne-price71/UKRI https://www.ukri.orgSTFC https://www.ukri.org/councils/stfc/Related links:Cynefin framework for making sense of complexityCorporate RebelsDiederick Janse and Marc-Peter Pijper from Corporate Rebels supported the Holocracy TrialsGlassFrog: “the cutting-edge self-management platform that empowers teams with clarity and autonomy”Tuff Leadership TrainingBooks:Aaron Dignan, Brave New Work, Portfolio, 2019Daniel Pink, Drive: The surprising truth about what motivates us, Riverhead Books, 2011Joost Minnaar and Pim de Morree, Corporate Rebels: Make Work More Fun, 2020Jon Alexander, Citizens: Why the Key to Fixing Everything is All of Us, Simon and Schuster, 2023Diederick Janse & Marco Bogers, Getting Started With Holacracy: Upgrading Your Team's Productivity, 2020, AbeBooksRobin Sharma, The Leader Who Had No Title, Free Press, 2010.Harvard Business ReviewRelated CAL Podcasts:Fostering psychological safety in research environments 30 Oct 24Elizabeth Churchill on creating culture, leading teams, loving challenges - she talks about Cynefin Framework ~6:30 mins
Jayne Price on transforming culture, leaders, and teams (CAL137, S8E2)
Introduction to the Episode
Introducing Jayne and her Career Journey
Understanding Project versus Program Management
From Change to Transformation
Implementing Experiments and Measuring Change
Challenges in the Academic and Research Sector
Innovative Approaches to Leadership and Management
Designing Alternative Promotion Routes
Challenges to Identity and Developing Leaders
Moving from 'I' to 'We' as a Leader
The Mindset to Move to 'We'
Humility, Vulnerability and Authenticity in Leadership
Shadow Sides, Blind Spots and Experimenting with Different Approaches
Starting to See the Benefits
Creating Workplaces For People to Flourish
The Holacracy Experiment - Creating Clarity
Doing Meetings Differently
Empowerment and Autonomy with Accountability
Corporate Rebels and Other Inspirational Resources
The Critical Importance of Leadership Buy-In
Everyone Can Choose Leadership Behaviours at Any Level
Encouragement for Change Agents
Outro
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Jayne Price is all about making work work better. She is the Transformation Director and Head of Continuous Improvement at the Science and Technology Facilities Council (STFC). Jayne discusses her journey to her current role in UK Research and Innovation (UKRI), and the strategies she employs to foster human-centered, purpose-led change in the organization. She emphasizes the importance of leadership that is grounded in trust, accountability, and psychological safety, and the role of experimental and agile approaches in driving systemic transformation. Jayne also shares practical examples, including the implementation of Holacracy and continuous improvement initiatives. The conversation highlights the challenges and successes in transforming our traditionally bureaucratic research culture into a more effective and innovative environment. Jayne offers valuable insights for leaders at all levels and showcases the value of empowering teams to do their best work.00:29 Introduction to the Episode03:41 Introducing Jayne and her Career Journey06:52 Understanding Project versus Program Management07:59 From Change to Transformation12:14 Implementing Experiments and Measuring Change14:10 Challenges in the Academic and Research Sector19:54 Innovative Approaches to Leadership and Management27:21 Designing Alternative Promotion Routes29:21 Challenges to Identity and Developing Leaders35:50 Moving from 'I' to 'We' as a Leader37:53 The Mindset to Move to 'We'40:13 Humility, Vulnerability and Authenticity in Leadership43:26 Shadow Sides, Blind Spots and Experimenting with Different Approaches47:31 Starting to See the Benefits50:53 Creating Workplaces For People to Flourish53:04 The Holacracy Experiment - Creating Clarity55:42 Doing Meetings Differently59:22 Empowerment and Autonomy with Accountability01:01:47 Corporate Rebels and Other Inspirational Resources01:06:31 The Critical Importance of Leadership Buy-In01:08:01 Everyone Can Choose Leadership Behaviours at Any Level01:09:51 Encouragement for Change Agents01:11:39 OutroAbout Jayne:Jayne Price https://www.linkedin.com/in/jayne-price71/UKRI https://www.ukri.orgSTFC https://www.ukri.org/councils/stfc/Related links:Cynefin framework for making sense of complexityCorporate RebelsDiederick Janse and Marc-Peter Pijper from Corporate Rebels supported the Holocracy TrialsGlassFrog: “the cutting-edge self-management platform that empowers teams with clarity and autonomy”Tuff Leadership TrainingBooks:Aaron Dignan, Brave New Work, Portfolio, 2019Daniel Pink, Drive: The surprising truth about what motivates us, Riverhead Books, 2011Joost Minnaar and Pim de Morree, Corporate Rebels: Make Work More Fun, 2020Jon Alexander, Citizens: Why the Key to Fixing Everything is All of Us, Simon and Schuster, 2023Diederick Janse & Marco Bogers, Getting Started With Holacracy: Upgrading Your Team's Productivity, 2020, AbeBooksRobin Sharma, The Leader Who Had No Title, Free Press, 2010.Harvard Business ReviewRelated CAL Podcasts:Fostering psychological safety in research environments 30 Oct 24Elizabeth Churchill on creating culture, leading teams, loving challenges - she talks about Cynefin Framework ~6:30 mins