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The CEO of htmx likes codin' dirty (Changelog Interviews #646)
1 hour 23 minutes Posted Jun 18, 2025 at 9:00 pm.
This week on The Changelog
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Getting htmx attention
Viewpoint origins
Hypermedia distilled
Why html lacks
What htmx adds
Echoes of jQuery
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Gumroad didn't choose htmx
Making money
Codin' dirty
Big functions
Types of tests
If/else over polymorphism
Pattern matching
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Vendoring
Big opportunity
htmx 2.0
Connecting with Carson
Closing thoughts
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Jerod is joined by Carson Gross, the creator of htmx –a small, zero-dependency JavaScript library that he says, “completes HTML as a hypertext”. Carson built it because he’s big on hypermedia, he even wrote a book called Hypermedia Systems. Carson has a lot of strong opinions weakly held that we dive into in this conversation.

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