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Leading leaders who lead engineers (remastered) (Changelog Interviews #634)
1 hour 14 minutes Posted Mar 26, 2025 at 6:15 pm.
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Sponsor: Heroku
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Mentoring vs sponsoring
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Receiving sponsorship
More connection
How Lara learned this stuff
Lending support
Shadowing
Our default approach
Managing vs leading
Sponsor: Depot
The four hats
Camping out in coaching
What are you optimizing for?
What does success look like?
What's the worst that could happen?
On coaching athletes
Giving good feedback
How Lara learned this stuff (remastered)
Book recommendations
Sponsor: Retool
Engineer to manager
Try it on
Do engineers make good managers?
Celebrate the wins
Lara stories
Manager Voltron
Manager framework
Cogs vs lynch pins
Wrapping up
Closing thoughts
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This week we’re bringing you a remaster of our epic 2021interview with Lara Hogan – author of Resilient Management and management coach / trainer for the tech industry.

The majority of our conversation focuses on the four primary hats leaders and managers end up wearing; mentoring, coaching, sponsoring, and delivering feedback. We also talk about knowing when you’re ready to lead, empathy and compassion, and learning to lead.

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