Sugar, butter... pie metaphor. Zack and Ellen talk about the movie (2007) and musical (2015), Waitress.
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Episode 45: Oscar Reactions (More like Oscar the Grouch)

Do you love movies, musical theatre, and cultural musings? You’ve come to the right place! Celluloid Stage is a new podcast by Green Buffalo Productions (GBP) that discusses the adaptation of stories across multiple mediums. Hosts Zack and Ellen utilize their knowledge of theatre and film to tackle questions such as… What’s the best way to tell stories? How do we update old stories for new audiences? Most importantly, how does their weekly guest feel about their favorite movie, play, or musical by the time the discussion is over?