When introducing a change, when should you seek out change management support?When isn't change required?What are some common mistakes people make when deciding whether or not they should involve a change manager or specialist? Camilla Nooy is the head of change at PEXA, and she joins Tash for a chat about all of this and more (bonus chat includes certifications, what we look for when hiring, when change goes right and wrong). Camilla recommends: The gifts of imperfection by Brene BrownApples Never Fall by Lianne MoriartyChat 10 Looks 3 podcast Tash recommends:Atlas of the Heart on HBO Max / Binge www.casadecambio.com.au