In today's episode, I chat with vocal efilist and anti-natalist vegan Laith Malek Reem, along with YouTuber and full-time AR activist Humane Hancock, whose focus recently has been on wild animal suffering and human intervention in nature.   

We discuss whether extinction (human and non-human) is a good or bad thing, the brutality of life and nature, procreation, and the famous "red button" question, among other things!