in the morning to make a pod and this is it. Typically the pod is not made this late at night but why are there rules? In this pod Carmen talks again about his Elon obsession, corporate group think, his HOA, being judged correctly and more. The title of the pod eludes to the common thinking spewed by comedians that you can only punch down. Who made these rules for a a business that is supposed to be independent and artistic. What if the down are up? Are we allowed to punch them then? Well that's what's happening.