On today's episode of Called, we are joined by Zoe Church's co-lead pastor Julia Veach to talk about spiritual disciplines and how this musty-sounding term can be reunderstood and revitalized to transform modern churches.

Also, author John Eldrege joins us to explain how spiritual discipline doesn't have to be a series of obligations or chores. In fact, most Christians are hungry for the way of life spiritual discipline can bring, and pastors who are equipped to lead their churches toward that life will remarkably change.