<div class="PD IF"> <div id=":fb.co" class="JL"> <div id=":ff.ma" class="Mu SP" title= "October 9, 2019 at 1:42:58 PM UTC-4" data-tooltip= "October 9, 2019 at 1:42:58 PM UTC-4"><span id=":ff.co" class= "tL8wMe EMoHub" dir="ltr">On the latest episode of <em>Called</em>, pastor, author, presidential advisor and president of the National Hispanic Christian Leadership Conference Samuel Rodriguez joins us as we discuss how to navigate social issues with political implications from the pulpit.</span></div> </div> </div> <div class="ci">&nbsp;</div>

Episode 5: Bobby Gruenewald on New Models for the Church and Leadership

From the makers of RELEVANT, Called is a podcast for church leaders featuring conversations with influential pastors, thinkers and leaders. Each week, we'll be tackling issues that people in ministry deal with on a daily basis—from soul care and protecting our leaders' marriages to looking at the art of the sermon to navigating politics in the pulpit and more.