<p>On this episode we continue our conversation with Elsie Arisa &nbsp;about what it's like to be a BIPOC creative in a White Space. We talked the important of representation in all areas of creating, discuss Elsie's meeting with Ryan Coogler and so much more!&nbsp; Follow us on Instagram! Instagram.com/callbacksandpaperjams</p>

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The Creative Thrives and Survives

A podcast about being a creative of color in a white world. For you creatives of color out there, this is for you. But don't worry, even if you don't consider yourself a creative or aren't of color, this podcast will have something for everyone! Every episode Thomas Times will be interviewing an artist of color and they will discuss the uniqueness of being a creative of color. So sit back, relax and enjoy the ride!