Johnson says he has a deal that might fly but he won&#39;t show it to anyone yet, because it&#39;s too soon isn&#39;t it? [turns head, stares at camera]

Is the EU losing patience? Xavier Bettel looks as if he has. What are the implications for Remainers?

Plus we have a half-hearted go at a making verbal <a href="https://jonworth.eu/brexit-what-next/" rel="nofollow">Jon Worth flowchart</a> on the fly - what are the scenarios from here on out? And - we can dream - what happens the morning after revocation?

Don&#39;t forget the <a href="https://www.r4or.co.uk" rel="nofollow">Rally 4 Our Rights</a> on 12 October!

Episode 61: Brexit is a Legacy Issue

Steve - @guitarmoog - and Chris - @ottocrat - investigate cakeism: the philosophy of having your cake and eating it, as preached and practised by the British government in its approach to Brexit. Each week, we explore the latest developments as we head towards Brexit and spend time wading through the weeds from the perspective of two long-standing Brussels and UK government insiders. Our aim: to inform you, our listeners, about EU realities and so, hopefully, to equip you to spot lies and to thwart attempts to manipulate you. There may be swearing. We are regularly joined by guests and occasionally by special guest co-hosts.