The Built Not Born Podcast
The Built Not Born Podcast
David Kitchen
EP63: Clear Wins: The Psychology of Simplicity w/ Ben Guttmann
1 hour 4 minutes Posted May 7, 2025 at 9:00 am.
– Why clarity beats complexity
– The fluency gap: sender vs. receiver
– The 5 principles of simple messaging
– Taylor Swift and the audience-of-one strategy
– How to write emails that get opened
– Brand-building in the attention economy
– Kitch and Ben on storytelling frameworks
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In this episode, David sits down with marketing expert and author Ben Guttmann to unpack the real reason most communication fails: complexity. Ben shares his 5 principles of message simplicity, the science behind fluency, and tactical tips leaders can use to clarify their message—whether they’re on a stage, writing emails, or building a brand. If you’ve ever wondered why your message isn’t landing, this episode is your wake-up call.
Topics Covered:
The fluency model of communication
Why most leaders overcomplicate their message
The 5 principles of simple messaging
How to write like a human (and not a press release)
Storytelling, branding, and the shift from “authenticity” to “vibes”
Why personal brands outperform mid-tier legacy brands
Practical branding advice for young professionals
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Guest Bio:
Ben Guttmann is a marketing and communication expert and the author of Simply Put: Why Clear Messages Win and How to Design Them. He’s the former managing partner of Digital Natives Group and currently teaches digital marketing at Baruch College. His mission: help brands and leaders simplify their message to cut through the noise and connect more effectively.
📍 benguttmann.com