For the penultimate episode of season two: belonging, hosts Lauren McQ and Rebecca Rush retreat into the wide world of psychedelics as medicine with special guest Brittany Wilson of Original Instruction School. Brittany is an herbalist and midwife who has lived with indigenous cultures in South America and has been leading ayahuasca retreats for over a decade. The ladies discuss how most plant medicine doesn't get you high, tech bros, the dubious backgrounds of white shamans, Rhythmia in Costa Rica, and group dynamics.

On Patreon, Rebecca interviews Rosemary Gladstar, mother of modern herbalism and founder of California School of Herbal Studies.