In this episode, we are joined by a special guest who's known for the alias Barclay.  Perris and Barclay met four years ago and have formed a brotherhood, a mentorship, and a creative bond all in one. Barclay is not only a performer and musician but also a creative genius. Join the chat to hear the guys talk about creative processes, short and long-term goals, fears, being a dad, vulnerability, and much more.