LaVerne sits down with Bob McDonald, former CEO of Procter and Gamble and the 8th Secretary of the Department of Veterans Affairs, for an in-depth conversation about values-based leadership in a diverse world. Bob’s article for the Harvard Business Review, “A Non-Partisan Model for Public Service Leadership,” is available now at hbr.org. You can read more about Bob and his approach to large-scale, values-based leadership, at https://www.robertmcdonald.com/.