Brian J Matos
Brian J Matos
Brian J Matos
S2E29: Rethinking Money, Business and Economics w/ Phillip Ullmann
1 hour 1 minutes Posted Jan 20, 2025 at 3:43 am.
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Brian interviews Phillip Ullmann, a self-described social business entrepreneur, with a track record of building disruptive business models that deliver value – measured as much by people, communities, and nature as by financial assets.

In this conversation, Phillip shares his journey from transforming a family manufacturing business to exploring the concept of social enterprise. He discusses the challenges of implementing social enterprises in a profit-driven world and emphasizes the need for a paradigm shift in business practices. Ullmann advocates for rethinking money and economics, promoting a system that prioritizes community needs and the flow of resources. He highlights the growing cynicism in the business community and the importance of creating a more equitable and sustainable economic model. In this conversation, Phillip discusses the evolution of money, its current meaninglessness, and the need for a systemic change in our economic and social structures. He emphasizes the importance of relationships and purpose over profit, advocating for a new model of business that prioritizes meaningful work and community care. Ullmann also highlights the inevitability of a systemic collapse in the current banking model and the necessity for a reset that focuses on meeting people's needs.

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