I’m joined by fellow music educator and classmate Michael Trycieckyj. We talk about our shared interest in community music like church choirs and compare it a little to the ensembles in formal school settings. Michael recently defended his master’s thesis: a case study investigating singer’s perspectives as we all entered and have now emerged from virtual ensembles during the height of the Pandemic. Specifically, Michael discusses how these singers felt and what unexpected benefits have come from more than one year singing in isolation.