<p>No fan of traditional PBMs, Steve Krupa talks with Jake Frenz, founder and CEO of SmithRx, creator of a new tech-based PBM player.</p>

Episode 135: The Burgess Group CEO, Greg Burgess: From Music Career to Crisis Leadership, and the Journey in Between

The Breaking Health Podcast features the innovators, investors and entrepreneurs who are building the technology and tools to break down and build up the country’s ailing health care system. With seasoned health care investor Steve Krupa, CEO of the Psilos Group, as host, Breaking Health delivers the earliest insights on the ongoing Digital Health Revolution.