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Music as a Hobby vs. a Career with Surrogate Live in Studio (Ep 67)

Stay stimulated! This show is all about getting people who know stuff to talk about it in depth. I believe that is one of the best ways to learn, to be genuinely interested and to explore in long form conversation.