<p>Erica and Ellie get extra spicy recording on the eve of Friday the 13th under a full moon. They mostly discuss lemons and the <a href="https://www.pnas.org/content/early/2019/12/03/1903844116">grandmother effect</a> among other whaley important topics. &nbsp;</p>

15. It's Humans We Need to Manage Not Whales

Breaching Extinction is an investigative podcast evaluating the complexities of the declining Southern Resident Killer Whale population in an effort to better understand the trials they currently face, and find solutions through conversation and connection.