Send us a textIn this episode, I chat to Tom Bird. Tom has been in the metal recycling industry for pretty much all his life, starting in the family business while still in school. Up until a few months ago, he was President of the BIR and he's held many senior roles in the industry, including Managing Director at Sims. He has recently started a new metal recycling venture, Enicor.In this episode we chat about:• When the markets start to go, there’s no point in messing around• You can’t punch somebody at the bottom of a ruck anymore• Forcing people into corners isn’t going to work• If you don’t buy it right, you’ve got a problem• Don’t assume anything – do your homework• Fridge Mountain and Car Everest• And much more!WHO IS STU KAGAN ANYWAYS?25 years in the metal recycling game and still learning and growing…I learnt from the best and worked my way up from yard labourer to Executive Director of Trading and Operations for the largest metal recycler in sub-Saharan Africa. Responsible for 4,500 employees, 85 sites, and the overall profitability of a multi-billion dollar operation.Brought my breadth and depth of knowledge to bear and co-founded the fastest growing, most-loved, and most awarded metal recycling company in New Zealand. No small feat in a country where people are outnumbered 4:1 by sheep (spoiler alert: sheep don’t produce much metal waste). Father of two crazy-awesome boys. Husband to Lisa. Under 8 rugby coach. YPO member. Lifelong learner. Mentee. Mentor. Chief dog walker. Committed Stoic. Undefeated dance-off champion.COME SAY HI ON LINKEDINhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/stukagan/