The guest of this episode is Clive Smith, a patient with severe Haemophilia A that despite the pain in his joints competes at the most extreme triathlons on the planet - IRONMAN. But he is much more than just a sportsman, he is a leader in the haemophilia community. Clive is the president of UK haemophilia society, EHC youth ambassador and newly elected World federation of Haemophilia board member.

In this podcast, Clive shares how was growing up in a household where all the kids were patients with haemophilia. Then the conversation switches to sports. He talks about what motivated him to start running, how bleeds affected his recreation and what he has done to be able to continue running. He also tells us how he started to compete at triathlons and how he treats himself before the races. We concluded our conversation talking about leadership, what are traits of leaders and what is in his opinion the reason behind his quick progress from national level leader to now becoming a WFH board member.