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"It never stops being a lot."
If abolition is a destination, which road do we take to get there? Do we abolish the prisons 'and all the people inside of them?' What do we have the capacity to imagine, and what conditions shape that capacity? How do we restore right relationship when someone has done great wrong? How do we endure the hard, hard process of creating a world without prisons and police?
"Safety is not the absence of threat, it is the presence of connection." - Dr. Gabor Mate

