Rev. Ogun Holder, Senior Minister at Unity on the River in Amesbury, Massachusetts, talks with us about stirring people up with social activism and being a LGBTQ ally. He asks the provoking question, "Does God care?" Plus, he is quizzed on Marvel vs. DC and his final word on the Star Wars prequels! We also have a new segment with spiritual rebel Sarah Bowen.
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Rethinking New Thought

It’s a big universe of ideas out there. If you’re looking for a fun and sometimes irreverent take on modern spirituality, you’ve come to the right show. From the tools of New Thought to the science behind magic to fun pop culture memes, hosts Jim Lefter and Sarah Bowen dive into spirituality from a unique perspective. Curious music, competitive and inspiring quote sessions, and in-depth interviews with the most interesting people in the field of open spirituality are all part of the adventure.