In this week's show, Curtis sits down with Mark Shayler at The House of St Barnabas in London to discuss his thoughts on how he's ended up doing what he's doing.

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Join Beyond Work founder Curtis James in conversation with workers, talking about working life.

This series is part of the Beyond Work project which documents humans at work using words and reportage photography, with no judgement or glorification. It's an attempt at unearthing the social, cultural and functional world of work, that’s become invisible in everyday life.

Show 4 - How do we end up doing what we do?