Pilgrim Bruce Ayling sits down with Steve to chat about their 2015 journey on the Camino de Santiago.  Along the way Bruce shares how his pilgrimage in Spain helped him to understand his Christian faith in a deeper way. Go Beyond the Pale with Bruce Ayling!  Episode index 1:40- Intro with Steve & Tammy  7:40- Conversation with Bruce begins  13:33- Learning to see God as a Father 26:44 - Doing the Camino in segments  30:33- Highlight of Bruce's Camino de Santiago  40:04- Future "bucket list" pilgrimages  

Intro with Steve & Tammy  7:40- Conversation with Bruce begins  13:33- Learning to see God as a Father 26:44 - Doing the Camino in segments  30:33- Highlight of Bruce's Camino de Santiago  40:04- Future "bucket list" pilgrimages

Episode 119: Postcards from Babylon with David & Kathi Peters

Beyond the Pale is a subversively sincere exploration of God, faith, life and culture hosted by former pastors and missionaries Steve & Tammy Hackman. It's a podcast for that person who finds more fulfillment in the journey than in the destination and doesn't mind coloring outside the lines a bit! Join us each week as we travel on pilgrimage together. We'll ask questions, question answers, and open a bottle of wine with you as we do. (Not a particularly good wine mind you, just one Tammy says we can afford)