What if the internet isn't just a tool—but a force reshaping how we think, relate, and evolve?

In this wide-ranging and provocative conversation, media theorist and Team Human author Douglas Rushkoff joins me to explore the deepest questions of our digital age. Framed by a powerful moment from Star Trek: The Motion Picture—where a new form of intelligence is born—we ask whether humanity is witnessing its own transformation… or losing control of the systems it created. Is this the beginning of a new kind of life… or a critical turning point for humanity?

Listen to rethink everything you assume about technology, consciousness, and the future.