We are back from the World Cup with a case of post-event blues and a bigger question: we built our dream - but, is it still the dream?

In this consolidation episode, we share our lists about what we want the next two and a half years to look like - and discover how closely aligned we’ve become. Di digs into what "important" means now that the podcast is commercially sound, why neither of us is a natural galvaniser, and what it takes to bring the wider product team into the vision.

Along the way: the "multiplier" that makes a business partnership work, why your best hire is the one that clears your own roadblock, dream guests (the Obama-tier bar), Steve's hips, and a time-audit report card that doesn't quite go to plan.

A useful listen for anyone building something and trying to work out when to stop chasing and start consolidating.

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