Sky News' political editor Beth Rigby is on the Eurostar heading out of Brussels after interviewing the vice president of the European Commission, Maros Sefcovic. In an exclusive interview, he says Boris Johnson's plan to overhaul parts of the Northern Ireland Protocol is "politically driven".<br />Plus, producer Mollie Malone joins to debrief the interview and has an update for the podcast friends.

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