On this episode we bring on another guest, Pat's childhood friend, Ryan Mack!

You've each lost a child. How has that affected your faith?

When Jesus encountered those who were not His followers he didn't cast them out or shame them, He told them to come along. Our hope is that if you are someone who has had a hard time with the church or maybe no experience at all, that you would let us answer some questions to put you at ease. There are a lot of bad churches out there and contrary to how they may have made you feel, we believe you belong.