🎙 Episode 2 is out now!This time, I had a great chat with Bayu Ferdian, CEO of Gizalab, about the power of collaboration and the vital role it plays in helping designers grow. We also discussed the relevance of design communities in Indonesia, and raised an important question: Is it time for an official product design association? Music by <a href="https://pixabay.com/users/hitslab-47305729/?utm_source=link-attribution&amp;utm_medium=referral&amp;utm_campaign=music&amp;utm_content=300654" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">⁠⁠Ievgen Poltavskyi⁠⁠</a><a href="https://pixabay.com/music//?utm_source=link-attribution&amp;utm_medium=referral&amp;utm_campaign=music&amp;utm_content=300654" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">⁠⁠ </a>from <a href="https://pixabay.com/users/hitslab-47305729/?utm_source=link-attribution&amp;utm_medium=referral&amp;utm_campaign=music&amp;utm_content=300654" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">⁠</a><a href="https://pixabay.com/music//?utm_source=link-attribution&amp;utm_medium=referral&amp;utm_campaign=music&amp;utm_content=300654" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">⁠Pixabay</a>